14 May 2015 note: I received this information ..
“Having read your post, here’s what I think happened.
“The person from CODOH who posts here at Unz read your blog post on Holocaust denial and decided to comment on it. I assume that the comment policy requires the use of an e-mail address. The person who posted, not wanting to post his real e-mail address, just made one up that ended in @zionism.org — or he used a legitimate e-mail address for Paul Eisen because he didn’t want to use his own.
Paul moderates his own forum, so it’s unlikely that he’d want to drag you over to CODOH”
In any case, the software settings I use supposedly required a valid mail address to post and a mail ‘surnamed’ @zionism.org attempting to engage this author in a holocaust denial forum stinks to high heaven – with no apologies to Paul Eisen
So I get this:
“Who Profits from Holocau$t Lies” submitted a comment (I disallowed) on my post ‘Holocaust Denial & Narrative Perversion‘
You are now being challenged at the very popular CODOH Revisionist Forum to back up your claims, see here:
Read the forum’s basic guidelines and let’s see what you got. See you there.
The first thing I had noticed was the inferred anti-Semitic slur ($) in the [would be] commenters name. So, I didn’t bite. Point one per ‘people too stupid to understand they’re stupid’ … It probably never occurred to the anonymous moron; his ‘nom de guerre’ gave away his perfectly reasonable seeming invitation came from someone that’s probably an anti-Semite, likely with a fixed, holocaust denial agenda. I make it a habit not to associate with, or expend energy debating, social idiots. Now, it is certainly the case it was this language from my blog had drawn his attention and had been proposed for a so-called debate:
“First, those persons denying the facts of the Jewish holocaust, quibbling over whether it was two million or six million dead, and whether the gas chambers were efficient enough to pull off the higher number, are misleading people over, and downplaying, the fact there was a systematic program engineered by the Nazis dedicated to the extermination of Europe’s Jews as a matter of policy. For myself, it’s unimportant whether it was 2 million or 6 million dead, the point is, whether by slave labor, starvation, bullet, mobile gas chamber or other means, the Nazis set out to exterminate Europe’s Jews and they murdered too many people to accurately determine, which can only mean they murdered LOTS (put your number exceeding 999,999 here) of people of Jewish origin while trying hard to get the job done. Many, many Jewish people died for the simple fact they were Jews. And that was a world class crime which fighting over numbers cannot diminish” Endquote [my article]
People too stupid to understand they’re stupid, point two: Clearly my mind is made up on the matter … and it’s not going to change. There is no debate insofar as I’m concerned and clearly I’ve stated as much with jettisoning the ‘numbers’ argument. If (I presume ‘he’ but of course ‘he’ could be a ‘woman’) was inviting me over to argue over whether the Nazis actually set out to systematically extinguish Jews, that would be ‘people too stupid to understand they’re stupid, point three; the evidence is overwhelming and issues from absolutely too many sources, survivors, Nazi records, SS veterans statements, photographic evidence, allied soldier witnesses from both Soviet and Western armies and not least, Germans I personally know, with incisive intellects stemming from being possessed of honest character, who have family who were Nazis. There is no ‘Jewish conspiracy’ is going to pull all of that together as a hoax.
Now, if all of that seems a lot of presumption on my part, here is ‘his’ followup comment (I disallowed) at the Bernays article at my site, when I didn’t bite:
Indeed,it was and is propagandists like Zionist Bernays which keeps the laughable ‘holocau$t’ storyline in the headlines.
The impossible ‘holocaust’ narrative allows the racist Israeli parasites to get away with slaughtering Palestinians and stealing billions from the US taxpayers every year, and then demand that US soldiers die for their greedy self interests.
The laughable ‘holocau$t’ propaganda is an easily debunked, impossible as alleged Jewish supremacist scam.
The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives
ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and
persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists parasites demand censorship.
What sort of Truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
Fight racist Jewish supremacism. Endquote [moron commenter]
People too stupid to understand they’re stupid, point four; Bernays work was employed by the Nazis…
“[Bernays remembers that] Karl von Weigand, foreign correspondent of the Hearst newspapers, an old hand at interpreting Europe and just returned from Germany, was telling us about Goebbels and his propaganda plans to consolidate Nazi power. Goebbels had shown Weigand his propaganda library, the best Weigand had ever seen. Goebbels, said Weigand, was using my [Bernays’] book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany. This shocked me. … Obviously the attack on the Jews of Germany was no emotional outburst of the Nazis, but a deliberate, planned campaign” Endquote [linked article]
…not only what became the western democracies western corporate media, which, by the way, includes high end power players who’re Christians like Rupert Murdoch, which belies it’s total control by Jews.
Then, this comment:
What are you afraid of Ron, free speech?
Only liars are afraid of free speech, only liars are afraid to debate their positions.
Je Suis Revisionniste! Endquote [moron commenter]
Ignoring the ad hominem ‘liars’, unlike Europe, we’ll use the example of hate speech is protected in the USA, bringing us to people too stupid to understand they are stupid point five; ‘free speech’ in the USA means that if you happen to be a unintelligent, bigoted moron, you can wrap or flap your lips around any phallus or subject without risking jail … but that does not mean intelligent people are required to engage in the same behaviors. And that is precisely why a professor who had been sucked into the CODOH (Committee for the Open Debate on the Holocaust) forum and had been consequently evangelized with irrational demands he embrace holocaust denial, as opposed to honest debate on the subject, pulled out.
People too stupid to understand they are stupid point six; when you obsess on something like a ‘world Jewish conspiracy’, you’ll miss a whole lot of what is going on, here is a case in point:
The ‘high five’ MOSSAD agents on 9/11 might indicate a Jewish role in the attacks … and ‘world Jewish conspiracy’ freaks would take that as gospel truth, or indisputable evidence but it might merely indicate MOSSAD had been sucked into a play that distracted from the more important actors. The same could be said of the allegations by Zacarias Moussaoui implicating the Saudis, but what is missed and not reported in mainstream is the fact the most damning evidence points squarely to the evangelical ‘Christian Dominion‘ personality Dick Cheney; according the highest ranking former intelligence officer yet to speak out, Major General Stubblebine of the United States Army:
People too stupid to understand they are stupid, while obsessing with a Jewish conspiracy, could not find their own ass with both hands in matters of intelligence. Does that make Netanyahu a good guy? No. He’s pretty incredibly stupid too. And going to that point, it only means Jews are no different to the rest of us; there are good and evil among them, no different to Christians have produced stupendously ignorant people in places of high power, George W Bush is example prima facie. And both Jewish and Christian cultures have produced personalities who’ve done remarkable, brave, intelligent and good things.
Ok, so next thing that happens is, Paul Eisen forgets which account he is signing in with and comments with a different logo and email, now as ‘Holocau$t’ Lies – Who Profits / Paul Eisen’ (I bothered to confirm the details) he sends this comment:
And you really should read ‘holocaust’ Revisionist Paul Eisen, a Jew in the UK on the matter of the laughable ‘holocaust’:
He laughs at the impossible ‘gas chambers’ & millions of Jews’. see:
‘Why I Call Myself a Holocaust Denier’
He’s not afraid, why are you, Ron? Endquote
People too stupid to understand they’re stupid point seven; clearly, dishonestly, he is promoting his work as a third party while not noticing he’s identified himself. In his previous comments (sans identity) he used the email…
…revealing he is one of the parties behind the website where the previously mentioned academic had been evangelized to embrace holocaust denial. In this most recent comment he uses the email…
…together with his identity. Zionism.org comes up with nothing; however noting there is a bona fide Zionist site: zionism.org.uk which would exercise rights over his email domain name and this is a valid (working) email address as of the time he’d made this comment, that is required in my comments platform settings. And Paul Eisen is located in the UK.
People too stupid to understand they are stupid point eight; entrapping myself with engaging in a known holocaust denial forum (that could be a MOSSAD ‘phishing’ site) would do MOSSAD, the CIA or any number of enemies I’ve made, a tremendous propaganda favor, at the least, with something like Israeli Megaphone Desktop Tool broadcasting ‘Ron participates at, and contributes to, CODOH’ … I think we all can know now why Paul Eisen identifies as a Jew who openly denies the holocaust.
And lest this essay detract from the article that inspired it, via an out and out moron using the comments submission platform, here is the rest of my article on holocaust denial, reprised:
We are surrounded by holocaust. And led by holocaust deniers. Every one of those western democratic leaders attending the Auschwitz commemoration, is a holocaust denier. How is that? One word: “Congo”
^ “around five million deaths”
How is it all of those ‘never again’ political personalities can attend the Auschwitz ceremony and in the same moment turn their backs on, or deny the fact, their economic institutions and national economies are mass murdering people across the world, through contemporary stock market value based on multi-national corporate neo-colonialism, of which Congo is the present-day poster child?
“At this very moment,… the most frightful horrors are taking place in every corner of the world. People are being crushed, slashed, disembowelled, mangled; their dead bodies rot and their eyes decay with the rest. Screams of pain and fear go pulsing through the air at the rate of eleven hundred feet per second. After travelling for three seconds they are perfectly inaudible. These are distressing facts; but do we enjoy life any the less because of them? Most certainly we do not” -Aldous Huxley
Where are the western leaders attending ceremonies at memorial centers, replete with graphic photos, detailing the immense scale of the Congo holocaust? Where?
Does the question of race have something to do with this missing aspect of ‘never again’ mass murders on immense scale? Is it because the murdered Ashkenazi were White, and this event happened in ‘civilized’ Europe, they have ‘never again’ commemoration; but because the people of the Congo are Black, there is no strident or pressing need to acknowledge what is taking place elsewhere, even as I write this?
And let’s not forget Rwanda & the church at Rome, as well as deaths due to invasion related infrastructure destruction in Iraq (fairly estimated to be at least one million), and the end toll we cannot yet project in Syria due to efforts to overthrow Assad (the western democracies have murdered more Syrians, by far, than Assad left to his devices, ever would have), to name just a few of the more recent or ongoing events which are glossed over and denied the graphic terms with which they deserve to be treated.
At the end of the day, Netanyahu, Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, and their several peers, all, are holocaust deniers (as well, profound hypocrites.)